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Linda steals Sosen Donations for herself and throws Khansgod to the curb

khansgod01
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What the???
« on: May 16, 2008, 01:08:45 PM »

OK people!!! I understand about trying to help out a young person going through this is a mess. BUT, yes their is a BUT, when I asked for help, NOT ONE PERSON LIFTED A FINGER!!! WHY???

Sorry if I sound like its all me, me, me. It isnt. But this sends a bad precedent. When we get selective in who we help, thats not right, period.

ho knows how to write grants, contact any sosen staff member. PLEASE. The need to help othNow im homeless AND no car AND no job.3 strikes people; thanks…

letsgetreal50
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2008, 01:22:25 PM »

Perhaps sosen itself can raise MUCH NEEDED cash for you and send it to you.

Just a thought on the subject.

I know that sosen is seeking to work on grants just for that purpose, BUT, in the mean time there must be something sosen or it’s member can do.

How about it folks. Let’s stick together like glue.

transitions
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2008, 01:23:45 PM »

I am sorry for your lack of support and very much understand your frustration. I am very new on this forum and never saw your post. I have been in similar situations many times when I had asked for help and no one came to assist. People seem to give often when they have something to gain and can not be bothered otherwise. It is very sad that the WORLD has come to this type of behavior. I can only apologize for me, and I am very sorry you did not get the help you needed.

justadadathome
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Re: What the???
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2008, 01:38:58 PM »

I never knew your situation. All I had was 20 bucks… and did not really have that…I got 3 kids, a house note and all that… and we go broke every month.

If I get more cash, will be glad to send some your way.
Do you have paypal???

tikibug
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2008, 01:46:40 PM »

I’m sorry for what happened to you and my apologies for upsetting you with my asking for help and you did not recieve any. I feel terrible and wish I could help you in some way.

Sorry I never did see your post either.

Bug

fallenone
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2008, 01:55:26 PM »

We’re strtched thin but we try to help each other whenever we can. I just received an email from someone to offer to help me make my SOPHIA project a 501 c3 and I want to open up a halfway house for struggling former offenders and offer assistance. Unfortunately that’s months away. At the most, I could only send you a few bucks next month, because I’m living day to day as well. Unfortunately you might have to take just whatever’s available job and homewise. I don’t know if you know my story but whe I joined sexcriminals.com in 2004, I was homeless and jobless. I’m sorry you have to go through this, what sucks is I don’t have much to give. Where can I send you a few bucks to?

lindape54
SOSEN/CEO
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 02:47:13 PM »

Khan
I am sorry you are going through all this. We have a few members of staff that are going through some really rough times also. One member might be homeless in the near future.
Buggy has been a member here for a very long time. She is asking for small donations from the members. That might have something to do with her getting so much response.You were only a member for a very short time.
We are applying for grants for emergencies for our members. What are your needs?

letsgetreal50
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2008, 02:52:21 PM »

Can you get any food stamps, General Relief. and Housing Vouchers???

When I was released in California as homeless. That is what I got and without it, I don’t know what I would have done.

Actually, the parole people helped me in that situation.

Lets

letsgetreal50
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2008, 05:48:45 PM »

I realize that cash is what you need most.

Have you tried 211? It’s a national service for your area that can connect you to shelters, Salvation Army and any other organization.

My hopes and thoughts are with you khansgod01!!!!!!!!!!!!

Continue to post. Please.

I only make $655.00 from S.S. and donations continue to put me in the hole.

I’m in debt up to my ears because I give and give using my credit cards, until I can’t give anymore but I still keep on sacrificing. www.cfcoklahoma.com is a monthly charge and as it grows I’m going to have to go from $9.95 a month to $20.00 a month just to cover the band width.

khansgod01, if I had a thousand dollars, I would send it to you. I truly would. I can’t give you what I don’t have.

I know for a FACT, sosen is working on this.

There is one (1) person who is taking courses in reference to “Grant Writing.” That takes time. It is a very specialized area. Federal grants costs around 3,000.00 each State grants half that and individual grants at least $1,000.00, that is, if your going to hire a grant writer. I know sosen does not have near enough to do even one application and we need many. From educational to support to, so many other types that need to be applied for.

If there is ANYONE who knows how to write grants, contact any sosen staff member. PLEASE. The need to help others is huge.

Thanks,

Lets

flowergirl_1970
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2008, 07:43:22 PM »

I have 10years of grant writing experience, including writing for federal gov grants. I posted a really good link to grants in the committee area and offered to edit/proof and help in the development of a grant … nobody ever contacted me to ask for help?? My offer is still on the table …..


klpsupermom
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2008, 10:03:20 PM »

Hi Flowergirl,
I really could use some assistance with this. I have taken a semester in grant writing, but have never actually sent in a proposal. I am currently working on the letter for the After Prison Initiatives Grant. I think Linda sent you the letter draft. Equal made some additions. I am ok with doing this, but I need information to back up the goals (how we plan to accomplish them)I need the information to back up the goals. I know how to format a proposal, but the information I need requires those who have it ie. budget etc. Feel free to pm me if you would like to help. Thank you!
Kathy

lindape54
SOSEN/CEO
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2008, 10:13:51 PM »

This is so exciting! Oh what we could do with MONEY!! hello2 start an emergency fund wav a 800 hot line # for sosen headbang notworthy national symposium occasion18 retain a lawyer occasion14 send staff to conferences Well you get the idea!!!!!!
Linda

fallenone
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2008, 10:16:33 PM »

Well is there much we can do for KG now by chance? Just wondering. Too bad I only have .40 left in paypal….

getting by
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2008, 10:23:14 PM »

If Khan would pm people his address & who to make a money order out to, we could send him something. Unfortunately, I don’t think it would be enough to get a place to live. This totally sucks.

billm
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2008, 10:30:50 PM »

Quote from: fallenone on May 16, 2008, 10:16:33 PM

Well is there much we can do for KG now by chance? Just wondering. Too bad I only have .40 left in paypal….

There’s not enough money here to help everyone that needs it. There is one person living in a 3 sided shack that has to pay over 3600 dollars to get off probation by october. There are people here that are close to being evicted. The grants will be the only way to help people. Rgere are far greater needs than the obe we addressed so far.

ZMan!
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2008, 11:23:04 PM »

I personally think this IS a little bit selfish. We have over 300 members here. Do you expect us to send money to anybody who asks for it?

What about all the other charities out there?

Come on, we cannot donate to everybody, and when we do, you get mad because it was not you?

This is very selfish, IMO… BangHead


billm
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #16 on: Today at 12:06:12 AM »

Zman, He is not being selfish. Being homeless is a desperate situation and I understand his frustration. Bottom line is we can’t afford to help anyone now. The money donated to SOSEN will in time enable us to help people in need, as well as fight the unconstitutional laws for all sex offenders.

fallenone
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #17 on: Today at 12:24:37 AM »

I can understand the frustration but I spend almost half a year homeless, bouncing from sheter to temporary housing, until I settled for a $6 per hour job and a slum but hey it was money and a roof over my head

Lot
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #18 on: Today at 12:29:49 AM »

This is a tough situation all around. Personally, I don’t think the general forum is the place for anyone to be soliciting donations. Not to sound cruel, but I was taught that the measure of a man is being able to bounce back from a bad situation. No, I have never been homeless, but I was close to it when I was let out of prison. At that crossroad in my life, I made the decision to help myself rather than asking for others to help me.

Khan, I have known of you for a couple of years now. I know that you have been dealt a several raw deals recently, and I truly wish I had the funds to help you. Perhaps it is time to consider relocating to a more SO friendly climate? There are many of us that could network for you to find temporary housing if you were local. I have found it is easier to donate non monetary items such as job referrals or provide a couch to crash on and a hot meal.

Lot
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #20 on: Today at 01:06:06 AM »

There are many things beyond everyones control, so I don’t buy into the RSO-handicap mentality. I know it can be hard at times. This is coming from an RSO, convicted of rape, sentenced to 3 years in prison, and 3 years on parole. I work 3 jobs, have a 2 year old daughter as well. I am by no means a wealthy, but I make enough for us to get by. Before this post gets convoluted, I am just trying to highlight that we all have limitations that we have to overcome.

billm
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #21 on: Today at 01:17:20 AM »

Quote from: Lot on Today at 01:06:06 AM
There are many things beyond everyones control, so I don’t buy into the RSO-handicap mentality. I know it can be hard at times. This is coming from an RSO, convicted of rape, sentenced to 3 years in prison, and 3 years on parole. I work 3 jobs, have a 2 year old daughter as well. I am by no means a wealthy, but I make enough for us to get by. Before this post gets convoluted, I am just trying to highlight that we all have limitations that we have to overcome.

That’s great you have 3 jobs, but you can’t judge other people by your situation. I don’t personally know Khans and will not judge him. I know how difficult it is in fla to find a job when you are a sex offender and in late 60s.

Lot
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #22 on: Today at 01:26:06 AM »

I am not in any position to judge anyone Bill, nor would I want to. I guess it just irked me when I saw people being criticized for being charitable.

billm
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #23 on: Today at 01:47:11 AM »

Quote from: Lot on Today at 01:26:06 AM

I am not in any position to judge anyone Bill, nor would I want to. I guess it just irked me when I saw people being criticized for being charitable.

This I can agree with. I’m happy the people that could, donated to Ricky. I also understand Khans frustration for not receiving assistance and strongly disagree that he was being selfish.He doesn’t understand there are many needy people in this group and we can’t help everyone until the grants come through.. As much as they would like to, the people on SOSEN can’t afford to help anyone right now

Everyone should remember to not judge anyone based on their own situation. In one second situations can change.

oldman_inmaine
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #24 on: Today at 02:25:32 AM »

There is a part of me that weeps for these people that need help, not because of their difficulties, but because I am not in the position to help those people. Setting up here in Maine, fighting my own legal battles, haven’t been unemployed now for just about a year minus a week or two. But in reading all of these posts that one phrase sex offender keeps jumping out. And I found myself wondering why so many people on this forum so readily use that term.

A question to ask yourselves, how many of you really believe that you are a sex offender today?

I submit that you’re buying into the propaganda that is proliferating this nation. The last time I checked I committed my crime over 21 years ago, I paid for that crime, I did my time, I made amends, and I was set free. I am not a sex offender, I am an ex-sex offender. And these laws are unconstitutional.

My nature is to help those that need help the fact that I cannot do that at this particular time rips part of my heart out no matter who is asking for help. I was supporting families around the World for the Past 10 years, Kids that I have never met, in memory of my Little Girl. Now, I can not just toss $50.00 bills in a Kettly, or help pay for a new lift at the DAV building. These new laws blindsided me and financially I did not really plan for this forced early retirement. I presently do not have a stable income, and what money I have in the bank is disappearing quickly with the legal costs of fighting this battle. Yet my hope is that something positive will come out of it that can be used in every other state. Plus I might, get something out of it, like being able to go help my Son with his company, something that I can not do because of being on the list.

TO: khansgod01

I’m sorry man, at this time I can not to send you any cash to help you out of a hole that you are in. I can pray that help comes to you and that you keep up your strength and not let these unconstitutional laws beat you down. crybaby2

billm
SOSEN Staff
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #25 on: Today at 02:47:33 AM »

Hi Oldman

“A question to ask yourselves, how many of you really believe that you are a sex offender today?”

Even though we are former sex offenders, it doesn’t matter. By the public, by the possible employers, we are seen as sex offenders.

By all of us working together through SOSEN, we will someday be able to change that.

oldman_inmaine
Member

Re: What the???
« Reply #26 on: Today at 03:02:16 AM »

While it may be true that these other people see us that way, psychologically speaking it does matter! When a person starts referring to themselves as the object of somebody else’s thoughts, then part of them are agreeing with that other person’s assessment of them. In other words you’re buying into the bull shit. It’s no different than telling anybody of any age that they are bad they are worthless they are unwanted eventually they are going to start believing it and behaving in such a way to prove that they are. This battle that we fight is not only taken place in the law courts but it is also taking place in the minds of everyone that is being involved.

I say we need to quit belittling ourselves, there are plenty of other people out there willing to do it for us, they do not need our help! It was like the ass hole at the police station, telling me that I was a child molester, it was bull shit and I told him so.

 

Anita
Member


Re: What the??? « Reply #27 on: Today at 06:23:21 AM » blockquote>You are ALL so right! Using the term EX-Offender over and over again, every chance you get, will go a long way towards becoming common terminology. Likewise, emphasize FORMER. Change the script on rFso in whatever way works...italics, color, underline...? That "R" could also denote Redeemed, Reformed...I'm sure you can come up with others to use wherever appropriate. One offense in your lifetime does not define you in total, forever! I so much agree with the well defined analysis here, and I quote, "We are buying into the BS". Their World View does not want you to regain your dignity and self-respect, but the very fact that you are here shows who you are today! You have earned the right to self-respect and dignity...CLAIM it!

The REALITY of SOSEN is: THERE ARE NO SEX OFFENDERS ON THIS FORUM! NO ONE HERE IS RUNNING OUT BETWEEN POSTS AND HARMING LITTLE CHILDREN! Thank you so much for this thread. It is sooo energizing! bunny


AlJones
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70219228 alfredmjones@hotmail.com
alfredmejones alfredmjones@yahoo.com

« Reply #28 on: Today at 08:31:21 AM »
I hope I get the names I'm replying to right, if not, please don't take offense if my comment doesn't seem to fit yours.

ZMan, my initial reaction was much like yours "Nervy, SOB! Then I had to step back a long way because evryone is aware how angry I can become when *MY* frustration level builds up. I don't think KG was out of place or selfish -- just desperate and desperate people do some very emotional things.

Staff in general: As much as I'd like to see SOSEN support all the RSO community I am also reminded of the "Give a man a fish and you feed him for the day, teach him to fish and you feed him for a lifetime!" phrase. I also realize there are going to be exceptions but staff seriously needs to decide (or maybe let the membership know) what it's priorities are. We (general SOSEN) cannot do everything we would like. THAT would require a major corporation with some mega bucks, we aren't and don't.

Transition:
Thanks for your appearance and cooperation here with SOSEN, et al. You are doing (tying to do?) many of the same things we and soclear are and *I* think itms critical that we don't duplicate each others efforts - we donmt have the money to toss out in our own knee jerk reactions to the various situations. (;ast part of this post before I hit send. Does SOSEN have a coordinating committee? Wouldn't it be more effective to pass our video media ideas to TOM and work with him? He may not do everything we'd wish - but maybe if we keep bouncing it backe and forth they or we might see the reason for doing a project or not, and they already do have the equipment that we don't need to purchase. Transitons, as I read their mission would work well with SOPHIA, F1 has, there a very definite, very needed objective toward which we need to work but is he spending his money the best way when Transition is doing (as ! think i see it) much the same thing. Just some food for thought ...

KG: I haven't seen you back since you started this thread and that concerns me. What's going on wuth you now? How are you maintaining finacially (like the rest of us not well, I know) and mentally - you're stressed and frustrated and angry (and man do i relate!) and I don't think anyone here as offended at your 'diatribe' so how about a follow up and let us know 'how it's hanging', please.

//al


equal justice
COO, Media Director
SOSEN Staff
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Re: What the??? « Reply #29 on: Today at 08:42:23 AM »
I was very busy yesterday so I could not weigh in on this thread. I have some very strong views on this. I have either personally talked to , or read the plights of many people who we on the brink of becoming or were homeless. It breaks my heart. As Old Man said, it is so very hard because there is little or nothing I can do to help. It would be different if it were a rare occurrence. But it is not. Buggy herself put the request in for help. She asked only for $1.00. Her's was a limited need for one time. It was for a very young man. It was so that he did not have to go back to jail on a violation!!!!! Because of the circumstances, we supported her by allowing the request to stand. KG, you did NOT ask for funds. You did state your impending homelessness. We have had homeless members before. IT is hard. It breaks my heart. SOSEN and its members are not in a position to be able to help with that. That is very sad, but true. NO OTHER RFSO group to my knowledge could do that either. You were homeless at least twice while a member of another forum that you praised to high heaven when you first arrived here. THEY did not assist you in your homelessness. It is because we all cannot. Your homelessness is not a one time limited need like Buggys is. It is an ongoing need with a indeterminate amount. There is no limit to what you may need to keep you in a home. I am so very sorry but that is quite different. We all have a limited amount of funds. Believe me, if I could I would help another member who is living in that 3 walled shack who needs over $3000.00 to stop being returned to prison on a violation. I would help out another member that I know well and who has given much of himself to this group who has been on the brink of homelessness for months. I imagine that we could solicit multiple stories here of tragic circumstance. This is a place where you can come to get some emotional support, to learn what is going on in the RFSO world, to engage in activism, to make friends and be a part of a greater family. On a rare occasion, we can reach down and help a member with a one time need. But we are not in a position to support anyone. Maybe someday we can have emergency funds. We are working to that goal.

I gotta say I was very surprised and not at all happy about your post. You are not a newcomer to the RFSO support group world, you are not a newcomer to being homeless. You know our limitations well. I do not think it was right to lay a lond of guilt on people who are trying their very best and who already feel the pain and frustrations of not being able to do more.


letsgetreal50
Member
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What the??? « Reply #30 on: Today at 11:08:53 AM »
Well, hot diggity dog. I'm speechless. What an asset. 10 years of grant writing. You most certainly ROCK!!! wav YouRock YouRock YouRock YouRock YouRock
getting by Member Re: What the??? « Reply #31 on: Today at 12:24:29 PM »
I agree w/Aljones. My initial feeling was, what? Everyone here needs help! But like Al, I stepped back & thought Khan must be extremely desperate & plus it would seem that he has been cut off from this forum (no access to the internet?). I am not a RSO but my son is. If it wasn't for me & his dad, he could be homeless also. I can't imagine not having a place to live & it breaks my heart to think that in maybe 20 or 30 yrs when I am no longer around, who will help my son. He is working now & saves his money (he is helping himself) but I provide him a place to live (very happy to be able to do that). So without me or his dad, where would he be? My son could be Khan in 20-30 yrs. I really do wish we could help everyone. Doesn't Khan have any family that would be willing to help? My son has 5 bros & sisters & they better step up to the plate for their brother when I am no longer able to. I will haunt them if they don't (LOL).

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